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It is evident the Bears need to rebuild the franchise. Several things need to happen for the Bears to be contenders again. Some of the topics could be: should a change in the Bears Brass happen, should Pace be retained, should Nagy be retained, which players should be extended, which players should not return, possible Bears to trade in the future, Bears current strengths, Bear current weaknesses, possible free agents and the Draft. I'm sure everyone has ideas of what should be done. Add a topic, or just comment on your ideas. I sure miss reading and discussing the Bears. I have learned a lot from many of you. I would sure like to see more discussions about the Bears. I hope soon the Bears become the Monsters of the Midway again.

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I will start off with the Front Office, the Top Brass, so to speak.

George McCaskey = As principle owner, he is not going anywhere until he retires or the next McCaskey pushes him aside. The McCaskey family is never going to sell their cash cow. There are way to many Trust Fund babies nursing on this teat for them to all agree to sell. Only and only when they make a move to Arlington with all the amenities in place will they sell. It has been speculated that the teams worth at that point might exceed $5.5 Billion dollars. But even then it might be a hard sell, with annual income at or near $1 Billion. That pays for a lot of Trust Fund checks. So I do not see them ever selling, though fans have dreamed of that day. The change in inheritance laws in the US made Virginia's death causing a sale, is a bygone thing.

Ted Phillips = President and CEO. He is a family favorite and is "one of the Family" and has made the McCaskeys a lot of money. As a Contract negotiator and Money Manager, Ted is one of the best in the NFL. But as an Exucutive leader of a football franchise he is terribly over matched. He has so little football intelligence, he cannot tell if a player or coach is a good one or a waste of air. Thur, repeatedly relying on football people from other organizations to guide his searches. People that have zero ties to the Chicago Bears and have no investment in their success. The Ernie Accorsi debacle comes to mind. This was a guy that was put out to pasture by his team and is only a name from a bygone era. But Teddy called on him to lead the next selection process. Ted needs to be pensioned off and let Charlie Weiss do the contracts again. Bears could bring in a real football guy to fill the Top spot in the Front Office and leave the bean counters down in the finance department where they belong.

Ryan Pace = General Manager. I had very high hope for this guy when he came in. He came to the Bears from the Fink tree of management. Like coaching Management has trees too. Good pedigree, solid background and all around nice guy. But he is just not as smart as he thinks he is. He continuously outsmarts himself and that is a by product of ignorance and arrogance. Over paying for players that are just not worth their contracts or draft position/picks. Constantly playing cute with his top draft picks that to date have all been huge busts in the "I am the smartest guy in the room" pick, but good when he just takes the consensus pick, like Roquan. Signing red flag players is another failure. How many has it been now and Mario Edwards is the latest, with assault lawsuit entanglements. Not just his own lawsuit but now involving the Bears Organization themselves. He drafting has been below average and his Cap management is atrocious. Over paying for the last one piece and have to rework their salaries to stay in the cap. This put the Bears into the situation of having to cut their up and coming players or releasing their high paid stars. This year, with the first drop in Cap in decades caught the Bears with their pants down. His inability to find a real coaching staff on his own and resorting to copycat hiring to emulate other franchises says to me, he is in over his head. He needs to go.

Nagy and Co. = This guy has been a failure. time to let him and his entire staff go. No more bean counter meddling in the coaching staff please. Hire a real HC and let him built his own staff. No more forcing the coach to keep tom, dick or harry just because he already has a contract. Part of the HC interview process is more about finding out what that coach has for contacts that can become assets. That is more important than finding out how he conducts a post game interview (i.e. Super Bowl winning HC Bruce Arians). Hire the Kyle Shanahans of the world when they are available, not the next look alike. Nagy needs to go. The only guy who stays is the Equipment manager from that end of the room. Tony Medlin is the best in the business.

2022  Prepare for the Suck!

2023 A Bright new Day!

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Shadow you have a great perspective about the Bears Brass. I know sooner or later another McCaskey will relieve George when his contract is up, which should be soon.. If they were going to sell the Bears they would have never put in an offer for the Arlington property. So I guess we are stuck.

I would offer Teddy a retirement package to remove him from football operations, and replace him with a seasoned football executive. If Teddy wants to stay, I would relieve him of his current responsibilities, and have him manage the Arlington purchase and the creation of the Arlington Complex. Teddy would only be responsible for financial issues. Teddy is a bean counter not a head of football operations, Teddy must be relieved of his current responsibilities. 

Ryan Pace has done more harm than good the last six years. I believe he has set the organization backward not forward. Most GM don't get six years to turn around an organization, when they have the organization moving in the wrong direction. I don't buy the excuse he is young and still learning and needs more time. Why did they hire him in the first place.I would let him go after the last game.

Nagy has led the organization backwards just like Pace. I believe he lacks the skill sets, leadership qualities and acumen to be a Head Coach. Most of Nagy's staff were poor selection who had very little NFL experience and success stories. I would let Nagy and his whole staff go after the season. 

I would offer an incentive laden contract to the New President, GM and Head Coach. With a good base salary and  incentive bonuses based on results. We can reward the producers and eliminate the mom-producers. We need to be able to term non producers. The guaranteed money always causes the Bears to be hesitant with terminations. The length of contract has burned us too many times. Any ideas about performance based pay for the Bears Brass folks?

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I got to thinking about if George retires who will take over as Chairman. I thought it might be a another McCaskey.  There are five McCaskey's on the board. Virginia, Brian, Patrick, Patricia, and Rich. I could not find much on any of them, to make an educated guess. My hunch is it might not be a McCaskey who takes over.

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I was looking up how many unrestricted free agents we have going into 2022. The number is 24. I went through the list and tried to sort them by Keepers, Walkers, and some fence riders.

These are my opinions from observations. 

Keepers:

James Daniels, Deon Bush, Christian Jones, DeAndre Houston Carson,Bilal Nichols and Jakeem Grant.

Walkers

Nick Foles, Andy Dalton, Jimmy Graham, Germain Ifedi, Taushon Gipson, Elija Wilkerson,Artie Burns, Akiem Hicks, Jason Peters, and Damien Williams., 

Fence Riders 

Joel Iyiegboniwc, Pat ODonnell, Patrick Scales, Alex Ogletree, Marquise Goodwin, Damiere Byrd, ARobinson. 

I would cut Danny Trevathan and Eddie Jackson unless Jackson is willing to take a pay cut. He is being paid too much for mediocre performance.

Your thought's guys?

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I'd try to keep Peters, if the cap allows it. Not a huge salary, but something above league minimum.

I think he could pay huge dividends helping coach up our 2 young roadgraders drafted this year. Plus he would still be a backup for depth.

Wanted: intelligent football savvy head coach. Contact George McCaskey.

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Keeping Peters around for a cap friendly salary would not be a bad idea. He still is playing at an acceptable level. 

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Corn Cob wrote:

I'd try to keep Peters, if the cap allows it. Not a huge salary, but something above league minimum.

I think he could pay huge dividends helping coach up our 2 young roadgraders drafted this year. Plus he would still be a backup for depth.

Better idea, just hire Peters as an O-Line Assistant coach. Then he has zero Cap impact. The Bears have the oldest NFL roster because of this "Coach on the Field" Mentality. This is exactly what got the Bears were they are, roster wise.

Keeping Danny Trevethan over Kwiatkowski.

Buying in Veteran FAs at Tackle instead of drafting oline high (until this year). Massie, Ofedi and how many other Retreads? Lawson, Kush, Sitton

Nothing against Peters, he stepped in for the Bears and has been good. But he is not the future. He is 39 years old. The eagles let him go for this reason. He is the future for no team, other than as a coach maybe.

The Bears are looking at a full blown rebuild. Time to get young and tool up around a fresh new QB with fresh new parts. The Bears have wasted the last 10 years thinking they did not need a re-build and only needed a tune up to win big.

Ever since they fired Lovie and did not re-build during Emery/Trestman time it has been rinse wash and repeat. They should have cleaned house right away when Lovie got fired. They kept way too many aging Veterans around that caused trouble for the new coaching staff. Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Gould,  etc. all resented the new coaches for ursurping Lovie's role. That "Re-Fresh" was doomed before it started.

Then the Jon Fox "organization Friendly" HC. He was never on the same sheet as Pace, because he was not Pace's HC choice. Pace new he was getting a second go around at HC. That is why Fox was not in on the Mitch Trubisky debacle. If Pace had listened to Fox, the Bears would have most stayed put and likely taken Deshaun Watson.

So no more Player coaches please. They do not deliver enough to justify the expense. Retained Veterans cost more than youngsters, are typically slower, have more nagging injuries and have a known limited ceiling. All those vets put an undue amount of strain on the Salary Cap. 10 well paid veterans tend to see a good portion of the roster filled with scrubs. This leads to no depth when those vaunted veterans go down with turf toe or heavy pockets syndrome.

2022  Prepare for the Suck!

2023 A Bright new Day!

Ryan Poles ripping off the band-aids since 2022!

 

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I believe we signed Jason Peters for 1.075 million and a signing bonus of 250 thousand. Not a very big salary. Peters will be 40 next year. How much does he have in the tank? I  remember when we brought in Orlando Pace and he had nothing left in the tank. Maybe your right Shadow offer him a coaching or consulting position to tune up the bulldozers.

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Sluggobear wrote:

I believe we signed Jason Peters for 1.075 million and a signing bonus of 250 thousand. Not a very big salary. Peters will be 40 next year. How much does he have in the tank? I  remember when we brought in Orlando Pace and he had nothing left in the tank. Maybe your right Shadow offer him a coaching or consulting position to tune up the bulldozers.

Peters was and is an emergency stop gap measure to fill a void that Pace created. Drafting an injured LT in the second round and cutting Mr. Adequate before finding out if your new LT could actually play. That is a classic Pace move. The old injury bug pops up its ugly head, and Tevin is down. No backup on the roster and only a Hail Mary from your Oline coach calling in a favor from an ex-player who was retired saved his bacon from the fire.

The Chicago Bears have the oldest roster in football once again. This is not the first time this has occurred in the last 15 years. The Bears have never learned when it is time to say goodby to old players. They hang on to them far too long. They rarely get comp picks because of this. Where as teams like the Patriots trade away veterans all the time when it is clear their best days are behind them and draft their replacements.

Pace was Lovie trying to bring all the old Rams to the Bears. Orlando was one and that slow decrepit Safety that Washington had already overpaid and dropped was another. You remember him? Archaletta? Wow, that dude sucked but was made an automatic starter my Lovie. Even after it was clear he was done they persisted in trotting him out there every weekend. Pace was the same. I was embarrassed for Orlando even if he wasn't. Adam was also as embarrassing.

Bear keep repeating this epic failure in allowing their roster to age ungracefully. The McCaskeys and everyone working for them have this nostalgic way of looking at their team. "Oh, he was once a great player, he is who we need to get to the Super Bowl!"

Yikes.

2022  Prepare for the Suck!

2023 A Bright new Day!

Ryan Poles ripping off the band-aids since 2022!

 

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Sluggobear wrote:

I was looking up how many unrestricted free agents we have going into 2022. The number is 24. I went through the list and tried to sort them by Keepers, Walkers, and some fence riders.

These are my opinions from observations. 

Keepers:

James Daniels, Deon Bush, Christian Jones, DeAndre Houston Carson,Bilal Nichols and Jakeem Grant.

Walkers

Nick Foles, Andy Dalton, Jimmy Graham, Germain Ifedi, Taushon Gipson, Elija Wilkerson,Artie Burns, Akiem Hicks, Jason Peters, and Damien Williams., 

Fence Riders 

Joel Iyiegboniwc, Pat ODonnell, Patrick Scales, Alex Ogletree, Marquise Goodwin, Damiere Byrd, ARobinson. 

I would cut Danny Trevathan and Eddie Jackson unless Jackson is willing to take a pay cut. He is being paid too much for mediocre performance.

Your thought's guys?

Keepers:

James Daniels, okay keep

Deon Bush, journeyman and replaceable. cut

Christian Jones, second stint on the Bears and a stop gap. Cut

DeAndre Houston Carson, same as Bush. cut

Bilal Nichols, good player and hier apparent to Hicks. keep

Jakeem Grant. Hhmmm, on the fence here. If Cohen comes back he is redundant, cut

Walkers:

Nick Foles, cut

Andy Dalton, let walk

Jimmy Graham, cut

Germain Ifedi, cut

Taushon Gipson Sr., cut

Elija Wilkerson, Sign to Practice squad

Artie Burns, cut

Akiem Hicks, sorry Akiem. cut

Jason Peters, cut but sign to new coaching staff as an assistant.

Damien Williams., emergence of Kahil Herbert and return of Cohen makes him superfluous.

Fence Riders 

Joel Iyiegboniwc, Special Teamer/Depth. keep

Pat ODonnell, keep but find competition

Patrick Scales, keep but find competition

Alex Ogletree, keep if cheap

Marquise Goodwin, cut

Damiere Byrd, cut

ARobinson. let him walk

Of course this is just my take on these guys. Opinions may differ.

2022  Prepare for the Suck!

2023 A Bright new Day!

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