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So I am not sure what kind of gameplan Nagy had going into that game but in the one time he needed to attack an super pass rushing D-line with screens and quick throws to the permitter and he doesn't bother running any screens until the third quarter.... that gameplan felt like an 8 year old randomly choosing plays on Madden without any hint of understanding situational football... I know that's not a fair comparison... even an 8 year old would have found a play that worked to get more than 1 net yard passing by the end of the game...  with 4 TEs active he doesn't run two out there to help with protection to even chip the d-ends who are eating the OTs lunch on almost every play...

It almost felt like he wanted to show everyone Fields wasn't ready by putting in one of the worst possible gameplans for a team with weak OTs vs a team with a possible DPOY on one end and a hyper talented guy on the other side... no screens, misdirections... like three bootlegs all game... just line up your weakest position vs their best and fingers crossed the young QB trying to figure it out will be able to overcome the 1 second time to throw he was given... I mean did he sandbag Fields just to prove a point?  But in doing so set a record for offensive futility in a 100+ year franchise... for a team that used to play in leather helmets in a time when you threw the ball 2 times a game...

Either way it goes... I am really starting to lose interest in this team as well as pro football in general... why should I put energy into cheering for an organization that obviously doesn't give a shit about winning... or they are so poorly run from top to bottom they will always be an also ran... I mean there was a time when this franchise was great but looking at things since the free agency era started...

Since 1993 they have:

A 211-237 record

8 Winning seasons

7 playoff appearances

2 NFC Championship Appearances

1 Super Bowl Appearance

The Carolina Panthers who have only existed since 1995, two years after the start of the free agency era have 8 playoff appearances and two super bowl visits...

The Jacksonville Jaguars a team known for their futility, also only around since 1995 have 7 playoff appearances as well...

If things continue to go this way, I might find myself just checking scores on the internet while I play a video game... at least that way I won't get my hopes up...

 

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I am right there with you Bama, I honestly can't imagine a game going worse. I am at a loss of words. If I was Pace, I would have fired Nagy before he even got back the locker room. I have zero faith in Nagy to be the OC he wants. Until he is fired or hands over the playcalling I don't see a single reason to watch. 

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

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Calbrooks wrote:

I am right there with you Bama, I honestly can't imagine a game going worse. I am at a loss of words. If I was Pace, I would have fired Nagy before he even got back the locker room. I have zero faith in Nagy to be the OC he wants. Until he is fired or hands over the playcalling I don't see a single reason to watch. 

I thought I had seen the worst this franchise could present in 2004 with Shea and that awful QB rotation of Quinn, Krenzel and Hutchinson... but even those putrid players and playcaller never ended a game with 1 net passing yard... this is what rock bottom feels like...

PapaBear.OR
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BamaBear09 wrote:

So I am not sure what kind of gameplan Nagy had ......... randomly choosing plays ...... without any hint of understanding situational football...

 

 

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After what's it been now, 5 QBs, pretty much performing in the same pattern, the obvious as surfaced!

As Olin Kreutz said yesterday, post game, grab a mirror Nagy and see who is responsible for this putrid display of what should be an offense.

If anything someone higher up NEEDS to demand Nagy give up being the play caller!!!!!

Matt Nagy: "I know we need to run the ball more. I'm not an idiot."

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Bears’ Matt Nagy must give up play calling, for his and Justin Fields’ best interests

Eric Edholm

“I obviously did not do a good enough job of getting this offense ready to go,” Nagy said. “So it starts with me, ends with me and it’s as simple as that.”

Play callers need to be malleable. They must mold their offense to the talent that’s on the field. Plays are just plays — X’s and O’s on a whiteboard or a tablet — if they’re not tailored to the best 11’s strengths.

As hard as it might be to let go, the coach who wallpapered his Chicago-area basement with play-call sheets needs to hand the Denny’s menu over to someone else.

If your quarterback isn't yet ready to run the offense the starter was, then change the offense. It's painfully elementary, but it must be said again. 

Myles Garrett, who turned in a career-high 4.5 sacks as a result.......... postgame comments ...

“After [the Bears’ first drive], I think we kind of settled in and saw how they planned to use the flow of the game,” Garrett said. “It kind of came to us easily after the second possession and [we] kind of figured out what they were going to do and how we were going to adjust to that.”

Why Bill Lazor might be able to keep offense on life support

Quietly in April, Nagy let everyone know he was usurping play-calling duties back. But why? Lazor was implemented as the play caller last November against the Vikings and held that responsibility through the end of the season.

The Bears scored five of their seven best point totals of the season with Lazor calling plays for Trubisky. The offensive line wasn’t so hot last year either. The change seemed to help. Trubisky completed more than 70% of his passes and took 11 sacks with siix games of Lazor calling plays. In three games last season with Nagy calling plays, Trubisky was below 60% completions and took seven sacks.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bears-matt-nagy-must-give-up-play-calling-for-his-and-justin-fields-best-interests-162634897.html

 

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Maybe Nagy got confused and picked up the defensive strategies instead of the offensive play clipboard.

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"Yea there's alot of things that, I think right now ..that we're doing up there in the office right now that guys are looking at that... you know we got together early this morning and you start really talking thru how things went yesterday, and.. there's some things that you learn, as you go through this.. and now, when you learn that: what do you do that's different, what do you do that's the same? Is it what you're saying, is that a part of it.. well, yes it can be.. whether it's shots or scheming up different ways to get the ball downfield.. and that's just all, it does get a little bit into scheme.."

-Matt Nagy

9-27-21

 

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I agree with you Papa. There should have been designed rollouts for Fields. Why Nagy called such dumb plays is mind boggling. Why did he keep trying to keep the kid in the pocket. M. Garrett (Mr. 4.5 sacks) said he and the defensive were surprised they utilize Fields as a sitting duck.  One Bear sports writer noted the play calling was so bad, he hoped Nagy wasn't trying to sabotage the play calling, making sure when Dalton returns after his injury, he replaces Fields. He also noted poor playing will hurt Fields development,. and continued long term misuse could ruin Fields like Trubisky. I just read Nagy plans to fix the offensive again. Maybe we fix Nagy instead. There has to be a lot of frustration with some of the Bear players. Hope Nagy does not lose the locker room.

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PBO called this in 2019, when the "is it Trubisky or is it Nagy" debate began. I thought it was mostly Trubisky, but obviously, i was wrong. For all we know, Trubisky might prove to be the worst QB in the league, but in light of the ongoing buffoonery on offense, he definitely deserves another chance to start somewhere.

And just for the record, Nagy called one screen the entire game in the 4rth quarter and zero draws against a team with a solid pass rush that was consistently bringing 5. Despite only being down 16-6 going into the 4rth quarter, he ran the ball 10 times. The whole game. 10 times.

What the hell happened to this guy? Was he lobotomized between 2018 and 2019. In 2018, remember the interesting trips concepts, the innovative rub routes,  two QBs in the shotgun formation and borrowing defensive players every week and integrating them into some trick play? The league must have caught up to his chicanery fast, because he's become a joke.

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Nagy is out to prove he is not the problem! He is going to trot out Foles to prove it everyone!

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Matt Nagy: Andy Dalton, Justin Fields, Nick Foles all under consideration to start this week

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 27, 2021, 12:07 PM EDT

Bears coach Matt Nagy doesn’t know yet who his starting quarterback will be on Sunday against the Lions.

Nagy said today that Andy Dalton is still recovering from his knee injury, Justin Fields is shaking off a hand injury and only Nick Foles is fully healthy, so the Bears will have to see how the week goes before deciding who starts Sunday.

“They’re all three under consideration right now,” Nagy said. “We know where Nick’s at health-wise, but we just want to keep an eye on Justin and Andy.”

Nagy said Fields’ X-rays were negative on his hand, while Dalton is still considered week-to-week with his knee injury. It would seem at the moment that Fields is the most likely to start, but the Bears simply don’t know yet which quarterback will be on the field against the Lions.

What Nagy does know is that his offense needs to look a whole lot better than it did on Sunday against the Browns, or else soon it will be some other coach deciding who the starting quarterback is.

2021  At least I am not a Lions Fan!

Fire Nagy now!

 

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