WANT TO JOIN IN ON THE CONVERSATION?

BECOME A MEMBERRegister

Chicago Bears Fan Forum

10 posts / 0 new
Last post
billwade
billwade's picture
POST COUNT: 2143
New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

Something weird is going on between Nick Foles and Matt Nagy. Nobody can call it a feud. Not in the traditional sense of the word. They aren’t outright calling each other out or anything like that. Yet it’s hard to deny there is a disconnect between the two in regards to the Chicago Bears offense. That disconnect seems to grow each week too.

It started a few weeks ago in the win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After a drive stalled out after a promising start, Foles was seen animatedly talking to Nagy on the sideline. The quarterback appeared to be upset the team went away from the no-huddle which had been working the entire drive. Nobody thought much of it at the time.

Then things went up a notch.

During the loss to the Rams in Los Angeles, analyst Brian Griese revealed that Foles told him Nagy would sometimes send in plays the quarterback knew had no chance of working because he wouldn’t get the necessary protection to execute it. That was the first true red flag that something wasn’t meshing between the two.

Now it appears there is yet another problem. It popped up in the 3rd quarter. Facing a manageable 3rd and 4, Nagy relayed a call into Foles. The quarterback looked to his wristband to get a grasp on the play. Something that continued even after breaking the huddle. By the time he seemed to have it figured out, the play clock was ticking down, leading to a delay of game penalty.

Video Player

00:00

01:02

On the next play, Foles took a sack that killed the drive leading to a punt. Both he and Nagy were soon spotted on the sideline looking at the wristband trying to figure out what went wrong.

Video Player

00:00

00:16

Nick Foles has preferences Nagy dislikes

After the game, that moment seemed to stick with the coach. He even spoke openly about his dislike for Foles’ usage of the wristband. Almost as if he felt that only enhanced communication issues rather than the other way around.

“YOU KNOW, WE’RE READING IT FROM A WRISTBAND. I JUST — I’M STRUGGLING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. IT’S GETTING YOU INTO A HOLE. AND SO, THAT HAS TO — THAT HAS TO CHANGE.”

Foles, for his part, defended the usage of the wristband. It’s something he believes gives him an added advantage at the line of scrimmage.

“THE WRISTBAND IS BASICALLY FOR UNIQUE PLAYS THAT MAYBE THERE ARE DIFFERENT TAGS THAT BECOME LITTLE STORIES OF THEMSELVES. T’S JUST EASIER TO HAVE IT ON THE WRISTBAND TO MAKE SURE — I LIKE IT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS ME MORE TIME AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE TO SEE THINGS… SO THERE IS A PURPOSE FOR IT. I BELIEVE IN THE WRISTBAND. I’VE DONE IT FOR A LOT OF MY CAREER.”

The problem is Nagy hasn’t. He didn’t have to deal with wristbands before he got to Chicago. Alex Smith never had one in Kansas City. Then Mitch Trubisky got one for obvious reasons and now Foles too. Is it a coincidence the Bears have dealt with constant communication issues since the coach basically arrived?

Either way, it’s just another distraction.

One that Nagy can’t seem to get over. He and Foles just aren’t meshing. This despite a lot of assurances that they’d be able to since Nagy’s offense is supposed to be similar to ones the quarterback has played in before. Yet as people should know by now it’s one thing to know the type of offense. It’s another to know the man running it.

If there isn’t chemistry between the QB and the play caller? Nothing else matters. Nick Foles and Nagy still appear in the process of trying to find that chemistry. Unfortunately, they’re running out of time. Eight games remain and the Bears’ grip on a playoff spot is slipping away due in large part to the offense.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/2020/11/new-evidence-a-rift-between-nick-foles-and-matt-nagy-is-growing/

 

billwade
billwade's picture
POST COUNT: 2143
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

This is coming from multiple sources, so there has to be some truth to it. Knowing Nick Foles as well as I do, I guarantee something weird is going on. At every point in his career, Foles has been the most accommodating, diplomatic player you will ever meet. Before this season, I would have said the chances of Foles ever having a "rift" with his OC or head coach was zero.

So, something is up. I think what we're seeing is some manifestation of a frustration Foles has with either the game plans or playcalling that he feels is so outsized he can't ignore it. I'm very close to crossing the threshold to buying into former contributor Papa.O's belief that Nagy's deficits as an OC were more responsible for the offense's ineptness than Trubisky.

I'm really starting to wonder if NAgy really did ruin the kid. 

When you bleed, make it orange and navy blue

Corn Cob
Corn Cob's picture
POST COUNT: 8179
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

Maybe ........if a certain OC could produce some semblance of an offensive scheme, wristbands wouldn't be needed!!!!  I think there's bigger things to worry about besides a frickin wristband!

Nagy is really wearing out his welcome with my defense of him. The guy must really have a big ego!

Matt Nagy: "I know we need to run the ball more. I'm not an idiot."

billwade
billwade's picture
POST COUNT: 2143
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

Corn Cob wrote:

Maybe ........if a certain OC could produce some semblance of an offensive scheme, wristbands wouldn't be needed!!!!  I think there's bigger things to worry about besides a frickin wristband!

Nagy is really wearing out his welcome with my defense of him. The guy must really have a big ego!

I'm with you. Foles frustration is boiling over, so it must be something pretty major that is wrong.

When you bleed, make it orange and navy blue

Sluggobear
Sluggobear's picture
POST COUNT: 342
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

I agree with you CCob. Nagy has a gigantic ego. I have not liked the play calling for awhile. The plays are either to complex to execute or predictable to the defenses. Nagy has not changed  the plays to adjust for the poor line play. Nagy refuses to adjust the game plan. He still thinks he can put the square peg in the round hole. It appears more and more that Nagy is the big problem for the lack of offensive growth in the Bears. I don't buy that we have so many injuries as the reason for offensive problems. Other teams have injuries and seem to come through it by adjusting. Last year we did not have the rash of injuries, and the offense still sucked, I know Mitch has not looked good, but now I wonder if Nagy is the reason Mitch has struggled. Even Foles is struggling.

Sluggobear
Sluggobear's picture
POST COUNT: 342
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

Great article on the Offensive play calling . Nagy not  described in a very positive light. I do not know how to post a link or I would have done so. I have included the title and author below.

Chicago Bears: Is a revolt brewing on the offensive side of the ball?

by Tom Pappalardo1

Corn Cob
Corn Cob's picture
POST COUNT: 8179
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

Matt Nagy: "I know we need to run the ball more. I'm not an idiot."

Calbrooks
Calbrooks's picture
POST COUNT: 8962
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

Has Foles stopped talking to Nagy yet? I am looking for middle fingers. Some choice words caught on camera. Sigh, the good old days

 

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

Sluggobear
Sluggobear's picture
POST COUNT: 342
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

Thanks CCob

Calbrooks
Calbrooks's picture
POST COUNT: 8962
Re: New Evidence A Rift Between Nick Foles And Matt Nagy Is Growing
0

If ESPN ‘‘Monday Night Football’’ analyst Brian Griese implied Bears coach Matt Nagy and quarterback Nick Foles had a fracture in their relationship when he relayed production-meeting comments Foles made to him before a game last month against the Rams, he didn’t mean it.

‘‘I think the relationship between Matt Nagy and Nick Foles is a solid one,’’ Griese said in a radio interview Friday with ‘‘Waddle & Silvy’’ show hosts Tom Waddle and Marc Silverman. ‘‘There is no question that they have a great relationship.’’

Griese gave a different impression with what he said during the broadcast of the Bears’ 24-10 loss to the Rams on Oct. 26. It came across to many as a knock on the relationship between Nagy and Foles when Griese said Foles told him in the production meeting that Nagy is calling plays Foles knows he won’t have time to execute.

‘‘We were talking to Nick Foles yesterday, and he said, ‘Sometimes play-calls come in, and I know that I don’t have time to execute that play-call,’ ’’ Griese said that night. ‘‘ ‘And I’m the one out here getting hit, and sometimes the guy calling the plays, Matt Nagy, he doesn’t know how much time there is back here.’ So that’s something that they have to get worked out.’’

After that game, Foles said Griese’s comment was ‘‘definitely a miscommunication’’ of what he said during the production meeting.

Griese didn’t directly address the controversy he inadvertently created in his ‘‘Waddle & Silvy’’ interview. He did indicate his comment was more a criticism of the Bears’ offensive line, which created the time-to-throw issues he was referring to.

‘‘These production meetings, as a player, I’ve been in them,’’ Griese said. ‘‘And now, as an analyst, I’ve been in them hundreds of times. I’ve got to say Matt Nagy and Nick Foles were two of the best interviews that we do all year. And very open and honest. Back when I was playing, I wasn’t that open.

‘‘But I think the dialogue that we were having was around . . . how hard it is to operate an NFL offense with the restriction that you have up front on the offensive line. My job as an analyst, I view it as trying to put the fan at home in the shoes of a quarterback, what it feels like to try to play in those circumstances. And that’s what I was trying to relay on the air.’’

*****

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/11/13/21564516/fracture-fairy-tale-brian-griese-backs-foles-nagy-relationship

Well there you have it, no issues here. All is good.

Clearly that "fracture" had nothing to do with Nagy handing off the headset.

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

HIREPLY
10 posts / 0 new
Last post
MEMBERS ONLINE: 0