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What are your thought's on ARob's request to be traded? 

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Update his agent denied that his client is asking for trade but is unhappy with way contract extension talks have gone and feels disrespected with what's been offered compared to the market value

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I'm sure all the new money deals in the last 10 days hasn't helped this situation. 

But the Bears have him under contract for the season, plus the Bears could franchise tag him for 2 more seasons after this one. 

I guess ARob could decide to sit out a season, but there are a couple  of young  kids behind him that just might benefit from the added reps!

The Bears hold all the leverage at the moment.

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Just pay the man!

He has been 90% of the offense since 2018. He made Mitch look good in 2018. He is one of the few WRs that can still catch Mitch's inaccurate throws. He is a true Number 1 receiver. Bears have not had one of those since Brandon Marshall was here.

C'mon Pace, you have squandered money on bad TEs, OLBs, Saftey's, CBs, RBsand heres your chance to re-sign a proven player. Get it done.

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What is supposed to happen will happen. If Pace loses ARob it will be another nail in the Pace's coffin. The salary cap next year is probably holding up the long term deal for the Bears. Maybe Bears are trying to find out if the younger WR players can help fill the potential departure. Why don't the Bears have a discussion with ARob's agent to discuss an acceptable short term fix until the salary situation is resolved, and a long term contract can be worked out. The trade issue needs to be resolved as quickly as possible. The team can ill afford this issue from lingering on during the season. Compromise will need to happen on both sides based on the salary cap situation.

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I have a feeling that Pace is betting on Miller, Mooney, and/or Kmet to step up and make the need for AR less critical. If the team does not need him as much the leverage moves further in Pace's favor. Not sure I agree at all, but Pace has some big brass ones if thats the case.

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Calbrooks wrote:

I have a feeling that Pace is betting on Miller, Mooney, and/or Kmet to step up and make the need for AR less critical. If the team does not need him as much the leverage moves further in Pace's favor. Not sure I agree at all, but Pace has some big brass ones if thats the case.

That is a bad gamble. Miller has yet to show consistency and the ability to stay healthy. Mooney is a Speedster and a rookie with one game under his belt. Kmet is a TE and in no way a number 1 WR. He should not even be in this equation at all. Taking a chance of losing a top comodity such as AROB is how teams stay in the basement.

Charles Leno, Jr. and Cody Whitehair are SOLID!

2021 is the year the Bears put it all together! (2020 is a scrub)

Go Bears!

 

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Bears GM Ryan Pace’s mistakes catch up to him during Allen Robinson stalemate. An article by the Chicago Sun-Times. Very interesting read. I not sure how to post the link for the article. Maybe a more experienced computer users will help.

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The Shadow wrote:

 

Calbrooks wrote:

I have a feeling that Pace is betting on Miller, Mooney, and/or Kmet to step up and make the need for AR less critical. If the team does not need him as much the leverage moves further in Pace's favor. Not sure I agree at all, but Pace has some big brass ones if thats the case.

That is a bad gamble. Miller has yet to show consistency and the ability to stay healthy. Mooney is a Speedster and a rookie with one game under his belt. Kmet is a TE and in no way a number 1 WR. He should not even be in this equation at all. Taking a chance of losing a top comodity such as AROB is how teams stay in the basement.

I agree it is not a good bet, but it seems one Pace is making.

Kmet is in play due to what Nagy likes to do on offense. He runs his offense through the TEs. If he has a top 5 TE he does not need a top 10 WE. He needs speed and a reliable target. So, if Kmet turns into a top TE, Miller does clean up his rough edges and Mooney can be the deep speedster, Nagy does not need AR.

Again, I am not supporting the thought process. Personally I am tired of seeing the Bears think they can have a top offense with a bunch of number 2 WRs. It has not worked.

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Given how tight-lipped he likes to be about, well, pretty much everything, Bears general manager Ryan Pace didn’t enjoy seeing his fruitless contract negotiations with wide receiver Allen Robinson spill into social media this week.

But Pace has only himself to blame for failing to get a deal done with one of the best players on his team.

The Bears are fretting over whether they can afford Robinson because they’ve repeatedly thrown money at the glaring problems created by Pace’s draft misses. Spotrac and Over The Cap have them at $8.2 million-$9.6 million in salary-cap space for the 2021 season, when the cap is expected to drop to $175 million because of the NFL’s pandemic-related losses.

“I’m confident we’ll work through it,” Pace said in July. “It’s not going to prevent us from doing the things that we want to do.”

Robinson must have read that quote and wondered whether his long-awaited and well-deserved contract extension was one of those things Pace wants to do.

Here’s what Pace has been busy with:

† After whiffing on tight end Adam Shaheen in the second round of the 2017 draft, he put Jimmy Graham on the books for a $6 million cap hit this season and $10 million in 2021. Trey Burton, who had a $32 million contract cut short, still counts for nearly $6.6 million in cap space the next two seasons.

† He splurged on the second-largest total value for any free agent in the recent offseason by signing outside linebacker Robert Quinn at $70 million over five years, and he’s slotted for the Bears’ third-highest cap hit next season. That’s to correct the error of picking Leonard Floyd No. 9 overall in 2016.

† His biggest mistake was taking Mitch Trubisky second overall in 2017. So Pace traded a fourth-round pick to get Nick Foles at $24 million over three years, assigning him the NFL’s fourth-largest cap hit for a backup quarterback at $6.7 million this year and next.

Those decisions, and others such as restructuring cornerback Kyle Fuller’s deal to make him a $20 million cap hit next year, make money tight for 2021.

It was probably worth it for Pace — there’s no doubt his job hinges on this season — to pour everything he could into contending for a championship.

And, sure, if the Bears win the Super Bowl, it’ll be justified regardless of what happens down the road. But if they’re the second- or third-tier team most people think they are, it’s hard to accept those decisions torpedoing the Bears’ future.

That future, by the way, is bleak if Robinson isn’t a part of it. It calls into question yet again Pace’s judgment on offense, and failing to re-sign a Pro Bowl-level playmaker who just turned 27 points more toward a rebuild than chasing a title.

It’s fine, by the way, to make pass rushing the top priority — Khalil Mack, Akiem Hicks and Quinn account for nearly 21% of their cap space this season and 28.5% in 2021 — but the stalemate with Robinson once again highlights how lopsidedly Pace views his roster. It’s no coincidence that the Bears were the No. 9 defense and No. 30 offense over his first five seasons, a stretch in which they went 34-46.

Few teams have won big recently by dominating defensively and just scraping by on offense. In the last five seasons, 17 of the 20 teams that reached the conference title game had a top-10 offense. Two years ago, the four finalists were ranked first through fourth in scoring.

But that’s not how Pace thinks, and it’s evident by how he spends. The Bears invested $22.9 million more on defense than offense over the last two years. Four of their five biggest cap hits this season are on defense, and next season it’s the entire top five.

And here they are, struggling to scrape together enough space to keep their best offensive -player.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/9/16/21438751/allen-robinson-trade-contract-extension-bears-salary-cap-ryan-pace-adam-shaheen-leonard-floyd

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Allen Robinson said the social media scrub that had Chicago Bears fans in a tizzy Tuesday was a product of emotion as the wide receiver enters Week 2 of the season without a contract extension.

A day after Robinson deleted Bears references on his Twitter and Instagram accounts amid negotiations with the team, he spent a 10-minute video conference call with reporters Wednesday affirming his passion for playing for the Bears and saying his focus would remain on his on-field performance.

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Robinson declined to address his representatives asking about a potential trade, as a source told the Tribune on Tuesday they had, and he also declined to say what he sees as a deadline for negotiations. But he did say he and coach Matt Nagy had a “good and spirited” conversation about his status as the Bears prepare to play the New York Giants in the home opener Sunday.

“Putting yesterday behind and moving forward, the biggest thing is me focusing on playing, which I’ve been doing,” Robinson said. “I know it’s not going to be a distraction. The biggest thing is just going out there, trying to play my best, trying to ball out and keep trying to lead this offense. … Everything in between the lines trumps everything.”

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Nagy twice indicated he has tried to sell Robinson on the idea that the Bears have a history of “taking care of guys” as the process plays out. He said he has “zero concern” that Robinson — who led the Bears with 98 catches for 1,147 yards and seven touchdowns last season — doesn’t feel valued.

“He’s a leader, he’s a very important part of our team,” Nagy said. “As far as the other part of it, that’s not my world. That’s on both sides to deal through that, but I think that our players all realize the history that we have here in regards to taking care of guys.

“And it was a really, really good talk that Allen and I had. When you have situations like this, it’s only fair that both be able to talk. So hopefully he definitely feels good and he’s confident that we want him to be here and that he wants to be here. That’s really the ultimate goal in all of this.”

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“Everybody knows how passionate I am about the game — the passion I’ve had for the city of Chicago and to put on this Bears uniform and everything like that,” Robinson said. “I’m a passionate person. I know I may not show it on the sidelines and stuff like that, but the things that I believe in, I really do believe in. And that’s just where that came from.”

Robinson’s coaches tout him as the ultimate professional, so it’s no surprise that much of his interview was about staying focused on his duties on the field as negotiations unfold.

He said while the social media commotion played out Tuesday, he was watching film on the Giants and talking to wide receivers coach Mike Furrey about the game plan for Sunday. He detailed how he thought he played with too high of a pad level and wasn’t fast enough at times against the Detroit Lions on Sunday, when he had five catches for 74 yards.

“Being in the NFL, you have the business of the NFL, so things do come up,” Robinson said. “But for the most part, I’m able to keep the main thing the main thing always.”

Bears quarterback Mitch Trubisky, who extols Robinson’s playmaking ability almost weekly, said he doesn’t see the negotiations being as much of a distraction as they may seem on the outside.

“That’s my guy,” Trubisky said. “I know there is a lot of talk about his contract and all that, and hopefully they take care of him because me and the rest of the guys on the team want him around. That’s very obvious. We all love A-Rob, and we know what he brings to this team. And they’ve just got to get that done so we can keep him around and continue to take care of business.

“But we’re not worried about anything else because we know how Allen approaches the game and practice every single week. So in between the lines and in the locker room, everything has been the same. It’s been awesome.”

As for whether Robinson will remain a Bear, he answered a question about whether he at least would finish the season with the team by saying, “I would say so.”

“My heart and spirit has never wavered as far as the city of Chicago and playing for this organization,” Robinson said. “Obviously you dive into the business of the game and there’s different variables that go into that. But how I feel about my teammates, how I feel about this team, how I feel about this city and everything like that has never wavered.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bears/ct-chicago-bears-allen-robinson-contract-negotiations-20200916-5f73dhjqzzdt7a4xystcnswqsm-story.html

 

 

 

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