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PapaBear.OR
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Let's get to know our new rival head coach......

LaFluer began his NFL coaching career with the Texans in '08 as  an offensive assistant. He assisted both wide receivers and quarterbacks during his two-year stint there and developed a close relationship with then offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.  Shannahans Offense ranked well coming in at #4 overall in '08 and rising to #3 in '09 based on YPG but of course how much credit should go to an assistant is debatable. Shanahan brought LaFleur to Washington to coach the quarterbacks in 2010. A primary responsibility of LaFleur's for the 2012 season was to mentor rookie quarterbacks Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins.  *cough*

After six years of coaching in the NFL, LaFleur returned to college football as the quarterbacks' trainer at the University of Notre Dame in 2014. Seems like a step backwards to me but what do I know.

In 2015, LaFleur returned to the NFL as the quarterbacks' coach for the Atlanta Falcons working under offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.  Riding Shanahans coat tails again In 2016, LaFleur coached Matt Ryan on his way to winning the NFL MVP. The Falcons reached Super Bowl LI, where they faced the New England Patriots, but squandered a large lead and lost 34–28 in overtime. **cough**

2017, LaFleur joined the Los Angeles Rams coaching staff as offensive coordinator, working under head coach Sean McVay.....The Rams did quite well in 17', but for some odd reason McVay and the Rams were content to let LaFleur seek a parallel move taking the same position as OC with the Titans in '18.  This is very unusual, teams do not need to allow coaches to be interviewed unless it is a promotion.  But they did.

The Rams of course went on to the SB last season seemingly doing just fine without LaFleur, and in fact their young QB seemed to improve dramatically without him.

The '18 Titans meanwhile finished 27th in scoring offense, 25th in total yards, and Mariota suffered one of his worst seasons as an NFL QB under LaFleur's first outing in full control of an offense.  **COUGH**

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_LaFleur

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/netTotalYards

So far I LIKE what I'm seeing, if this guy lives up to my expectations based on what I know from his career path so far this may end up being one of my all time favorite packer coaches..........

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I like him more and more!

C'mon GB, lock this guy up long term!

I am thinking $110M over 10 years!

Having a lot of tools does not make you a Carpenter.  -Vic Fangio

 

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Well at least he has a lot of experience as a former football player........

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A closer look at LaFluer's impact on the two offenses where he has acted as OC:

LaFluer did not call plays for LA, and they did not replace him but rather promoted from within -

2017 Rams with Lafluer as OC - Ranked 10 overall

2018 Rams without Lafluer - Ranked 2 overall

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2017 Titans without Lafluer - Ranked 23 overall (19th in scoring)

2018 Titans with Lafluer - Ranked 25 overall dropped to (27th in scoring)

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2017

YIKES!

LaFluer is largly credited for his work with QBs though, and that is what has given him credibility and opportunities

so let's look at his influence on those QBs when he was in the roll of OC:

Jarrod Goff with Lafluer 2017 - Ranked 16th overall

Jarrod Goff without Lafluer 2018 - Ranked 10th overall

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Marcus Mariotta without Lafluer 2017 - Ranked 13th overall

Marcus Mariota with Lafluer 2018 - Ranked 19th overall

http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

 

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PapaBear.OR wrote:

A closer look at LaFluer's impact on the two offenses where he has acted as OC:

LaFluer did not call plays for LA, and they did not replace him but rather promoted from within -

2017 Rams with Lafluer as OC - Ranked 10 overall

2018 Rams without Lafluer - Ranked 2 overall

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2017 Titans without Lafluer - Ranked 23 overall (19th in scoring)

2018 Titans with Lafluer - Ranked 25 overall dropped to (27th in scoring)

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2017

YIKES!

LaFluer is largly credited for his work with QBs though, and that is what has given him credibility and opportunities

so let's look at his influence on those QBs when he was in the roll of OC:

Jarrod Goff with Lafluer 2017 - Ranked 16th overall

Jarrod Goff without Lafluer 2018 - Ranked 10th overall

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Marcus Mariotta without Lafluer 2017 - Ranked 13th overall

Marcus Mariota with Lafluer 2018 - Ranked 19th overall

http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

 

Yet Packer fans are going nuts over how he will revive the offense in GB and him and Rodgers are going to be best buddies. I am really looking forward to the collapse of GB and the silencing of their fans.

Train like you are 2nd, but play like you are 1st.

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Back in November the packers began interviewing potential new HC's, they cherry picked Lafleur from the following list:

Head coaching candidates Packers have targeted

Josh McDaniels - New England Patriots Offensive Coordinator........ The Packers interviewed McDaniels

Todd Monken - Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator.........Bucs' offensive coordinator from 2016-2018. Of those three seasons, the Bucs were ranked in the top 10 in total offense twice including this past season where they were ranked third behind the Los Angeles Rams and the Kansas City Chiefs. .....He interviewed with the Packers. 

Matt LaFleur - Tennessee Titans Offensive Coordinator (LoL)

Adam Gase - Former Miami Dolphins head coach.....Gase interviewed for the position

Dan Campbell - New Orleans Saints Tight Ends coach....The Packers interviewed Campbell

Jim Caldwell - Former Colts and Lions head coach....The Packers have interviewed Caldwell

Chuck Pagano - Former Colts head coach......Chuck Pagano - Former Colts head coach

Brian Flores - Patriots linebackers coach and defensive coordinator.........he interviewed with the team

Pat Fitzgerald - Northwestern Head Coach.....The Packers have requested to interview Fitzgerald despite him saying he's staying at Northwestern. Fitzgerald's agent announced that he is staying at Northwestern

Pete Carmichael Jr. - New Orleans Saints Offensive Coordinator..........The Packers interviewed Carmichael

Mike Munchak - Pittspurgh Steelers offensive line coach

Joe Philbin - Packers interim head coach

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/LongFormArticle/Packers-head-coach-candidates-targeted--125575982/#125575982_7

There are some pretty good names on that list, I gotta be honest.  Now we will never know but you have to wonder if LaFleur was really the packers top choice?  LaFleur's track record does not even come close to measuring up with most of these guys. I would of thought Monken or Carmichael would be the clear cut favorites, and I would of put LaFleur way down the list ahead of maybe only McDanials, and that is only because I would not trust McDanials not to pull a McDanials.........

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By January of this year the top packers news sites were ranking canidates for the job.  Some names had changed, some more really good prospects had been added imo., but LaFleur seems to have fallen off the list .........

10. Adam Gase

9. Jim Caldwell

8. Jim Schwartz

7. Mike Munchak

6. Vic Fangio

5. Pat Fitzgerald

4. Eric Bieniemy

3. John Harbaugh

2. Josh McDaniels

1. Bruce Arians

https://lombardiave.com/2019/01/01/packers-ranking-head-coach-candidates/

A lot of these same names are floating around the mainstream media at this time as speculation for the new packers coach, but oddly enough no LaFluer on these lists either:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/who-will-replace-mike-mccarthy-seven-candidates-to-take-over-as-the-next-packers-head-coach/

Then on Jan. 7th the packers hire their new head coach and of course all the worlds media is in love with this new guy......

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Ok so LaFluer it is........... now being supposedly an offensive mind, and having been an OC (for one year and failed) I'm going to assume he will run the packers offense.  But I really don't know.  Will it be a situation like here with Nagy where he calls the plays or will he let his OC run things on game day?  Either way it could well be his OC will make up for whatever he may lack. 

The Green Bay Packers named Nathaniel Hackett offensive coordinator on Jan. 16, 2019. I thought I would take a look into this guy to see what we are up against.

First I looked at Walter Football, always a good baseline. They gave out a grade for the hire:

Packers hire OC Nathaniel Hackett: C+ Grade
This seems like a pretty bland hire. Nathaniel Hackett is not a very good coordinator. His play-calling is predictable, and Blake Bortles regressed under his watch.

Hackett has never had success in the NFL, as he failed in Buffalo and Jacksonville. However, he's never worked with a good NFL quarterback. He'll finally have that opportunity in Green Bay, but why Hackett? I'd rather bring in someone with new ideas; not a history of failure in the NFL. Still, I guess there's some credence to hiring a veteran play-caller because the Packers have a first-time head coach, so I'm not going to grade this harshly.

https://walterfootball.com/coachfirehire.php

WoW.  So I just took a quick look and sure enough, he was fired by Jacksonville after their seventh straight loss .......

Jaguars fire Nathaniel Hackett after falling to 3-8......The Jaguars rank 21st in the NFL in total offense with 3,811 yards and are 28th overall in points per game with a 17.9 average. The Jaguars finished fifth in scoring last season (26.0) en route to a 10-6 record and an AFC South title. Their decrease of 8.1 points per game is the largest drop of any team from last season.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25383562/jacksonville-jaguars-fire-nathaniel-hackett-7th-straight-loss

Before that he failed as OC for the Bills back in 2013 and 2014 just as WalterFootball said, those teams finished 6-10 and 9-7 and missed the playoffs and he took a demmotion to QB coach in Jacksonville for 2015 and 2016 seasons.

https://pro-football-history.com/coach/2052/nathaniel-hackett-bio

So there you have it Bears fans.  This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is your new packers offensive brain trust.

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GBs offseason is the gift that keeps on giving. Do you think Rodgers and LaFleur will survive game one? Should we start a board picking which week will be the meltdown between them?

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Calbrooks wrote:

GBs offseason is the gift that keeps on giving. Do you think Rodgers and LaFleur will survive game one? Should we start a board picking which week will be the meltdown between them?

If I'm being honest now, after looking into the facts behind both the coaching changes and player changes and additions I am shocked on several levels.  In a good way.  Unless Rodgers can literally run this team himself and these coaches just stay out of it I can't see them being any better than they were last year much less getting back to form.

I shouldn't be surprised but the media overlooking all the shortcommings of the new coaching staffs history up to now is mindboggling.  Very few if any media outlets have anything bad to say about Lafleur and I had to dig deep to even find a reference to his staff.  It's been ignored.  The Media line is that Lafleur is going to rejuvinate the packers O and Rodgers will return to MVP form and their defense majically improved tremendously by adding Amos and a few retred edge rushers in FA who haven't done shit in their careers up to now, and of course every guy they drafted is destined for the pro bowl.

 

 

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