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Harry Hiestand is now going into his second year with this group.  All starters returning and Long re-signed on a team friendly deal, no reason not to expect them to continue to improve and they finished last season ranked pretty damn well in protecting Biscuit according to PFF.

Ranking all 32 NFL offensive lines by pass-blocking efficiency

By Mark Chichester • Apr 8, 2019

Outlined in our Signature Stats Spotlight, pass-blocking efficiency has been talked about since we at Pro Football Focus started tracking every player on every play of every game. Effectively measuring pressures allowed on a per-snap basis, here is how all 32 NFL teams stacked up last year in terms of PBE.

2. Chicago Bears

2018 pass-blocking efficiency: 89.1

No team surrendered fewer pressures last season than the Chicago Bears, who allowed 117 from their 519 pass-blocking snaps. They ranked second among offensive lines in sacks allowed (11), fifth in hits allowed (14), and third in hurries allowed (92).

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-by-pass-blocking-efficiency

For a point of reference they were 11 overall on PFF's list the year before (2017)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-from-the-2017-nfl-season

..........BUT, by pass protection they were only ranked 19th.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-offensive-lines-by-pass-blocking-efficiency

Some of that is the change in talent from 2017 to 2018, some of it is the change in overall offense from he whom I shall not name to Nagy, but I think a LOT of it is the influence of Harry Hiestand.  These five guys are imo the most important position group on the offense and the most important asset to Mitch's opportunity to develope.

 

 

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PapaBear.OR wrote:

Harry Hiestand is now going into his second year with this group.  All starters returning and Long re-signed on a team friendly deal, no reason not to expect them to continue to improve and they finished last season ranked pretty damn well in protecting Biscuit according to PFF.

Ranking all 32 NFL offensive lines by pass-blocking efficiency

By Mark Chichester • Apr 8, 2019

Outlined in our Signature Stats Spotlight, pass-blocking efficiency has been talked about since we at Pro Football Focus started tracking every player on every play of every game. Effectively measuring pressures allowed on a per-snap basis, here is how all 32 NFL teams stacked up last year in terms of PBE.

2. Chicago Bears

2018 pass-blocking efficiency: 89.1

No team surrendered fewer pressures last season than the Chicago Bears, who allowed 117 from their 519 pass-blocking snaps. They ranked second among offensive lines in sacks allowed (11), fifth in hits allowed (14), and third in hurries allowed (92).

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-by-pass-blocking-efficiency

For a point of reference they were 11 overall on PFF's list the year before (2017)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-from-the-2017-nfl-season

..........BUT, by pass protection they were only ranked 19th.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-offensive-lines-by-pass-blocking-efficiency

Some of that is the change in talent from 2017 to 2018, some of it is the change in overall offense from he whom I shall not name to Nagy, but I think a LOT of it is the influence of Harry Hiestand.  These five guys are imo the most important position group on the offense and the most important asset to Mitch's opportunity to develope.

 

 

Some of the credit needs to go to Mitch also. He was very quick to decide to take what the D gave him or tuck the ball and run. His dual threat as a passer and a runner made defenses keep their LBs in position for fear of getting burned for 9 or more yards. Mitch turned what would have been sacks into nice runs last year. He did it against elite pass rusher off the edge more than once. That same rush in 2017 or earlier would have ended in a sack. Go look at the Viking vs. Bears game for a couple real nice examples of Mitch stepping up, avoiding the sack and getting 9+ yards on a "busted" play. There was also a called QB run where the DE crashed down the line assuming Howard had the ball and Mitch scampered for about 13 yards.

A mobile QB really helps out the o-line alot.

Harry did a great job with them too. Leno got better, like he has every year. Massie was on a contract year and was securing his next contract (hoping he does not regress after getting paid)! harry did wonders with the revolving door at guard left and right last year. He kept the quality of play at an even plateau.

O-Line and pass protecting is the least of my worries.

Maybe this is why nagy stuggles getting the RBs into a groove in his offense. His QB is the better RB. Mitch led the league in yards per carry for awhile last season. He and Cam Newton flip flopped the league lead a few times. Not sure how that stat ended. For awhile Mitch had a 7.4 yards per carry average.....js

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The Shadow wrote:

Some of the credit needs to go to Mitch also. He was very quick to decide to take what the D gave him or tuck the ball and run. His dual threat as a passer and a runner made defenses keep their LBs in position for fear of getting burned for 9 or more yards.

A mobile QB really helps out the o-line alot.

 

Agreed, Mitch's mobility is a huge asset. 

 

I do think it can be a double edged sword though, a lesser coached, less disciplined O line might draw a lot more penalties when their QB starts skittering around.  To Harry's credit the Bears were close to the least penalized team in the entire league.

https://247sports.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/ContentGallery/Most-penalized-NFL-teams-in-the-2018-season-through-Week-16-121870592/#121870592_31

http://www.nflpenalties.com/position/offensive-line?year=2018&view=log

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Add to it that Pace has done it without breaking the bank. Harry has taken a good group of individuals and made them far better as a whole. 

For comparison, the Redskins are paying their starters an average of 33.75 mil/year. The Bears are at 26.05 mil/year. Their highest paid lineman(Leno at 9.5m/y) is the 36th highest paid lineman. 

 

 

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Calbrooks wrote:

Add to it that Pace has done it without breaking the bank. Harry has taken a good group of individuals and made them far better as a whole. 

For comparison, the Redskins are paying their starters an average of 33.75 mil/year. The Bears are at 26.05 mil/year. Their highest paid lineman(Leno at 9.5m/y) is the 36th highest paid lineman. 

 

 

Yeah, but isn't that because he is only adequate at LT?

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Yeah, but isn't that because he is only adequate at LT?

OK?

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Now....

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PapaBear.OR wrote:

 

The Shadow wrote:

Yeah, but isn't that because he is only adequate at LT?

OK?

I've said it before........ and I'll say it again....

Now....

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The Shadow wrote:

 

PapaBear.OR wrote:

 

The Shadow wrote:

Yeah, but isn't that because he is only adequate at LT?

OK?

I've said it before........ and I'll say it again....

Now....

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Poor Papa...

But seriously, what do you think of the rumor that Whitehair and Danials might swap spots? Whitehair has played pretty damn well at center, but I think he did even better as a guard. Even if Danials just matches the level Whitehair is at it would be a net gain, in my opinion. 

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I would like to see the switch happen. Daniels is probably a better center, and Whitehair is a better guard. Whitehair can then focus on knocking people down versus hiking the ball.

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Kyle Long feels younger and healthier after losing 25 pounds

Kyle Long ...........posting today on his Twitter account about how great he feels after losing 25 pounds since the season ended in January.

When he was drafted in 2013, Long entered the league at roughly 315 pounds but got as heavy as 350 during his six seasons in the NFL.

When asked about how he lost the weight, Long explained how he changed his diet with small portions, no carbs, and tons of water throughout the day. While some linemen want to add the extra weight, Long insists he is at his best playing closer to 315 pounds as it allows for better mobility on the line and injury recovery.

Bears training camp is still just over three months away, which is when fans will truly see how Long’s weight loss will impact his play on the field, but after the recent injury issues he’s had, it’s a good sign to hear he feels better overall.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/16/kyle-long-feels-younger-and-healthier-after-losing-25-pounds/
 

325 should be about right for Long, I'm actually surprised to read he was up to 350.  I had no idea.  I wonder if Harry sent him home at the end of last season with instructions to go lose those pounds before he comes back to camp?  Coming in at 315 and his first season having been one of his best 350 is a long way from there for a guy that is only getting older.

 

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