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Vic Fangio addresses balance between winning now and building for future

Posted by Mike Florio on February 10, 2019, 11:12 PM EST

The Broncos have had two straight losing seasons for the first time since the early ’70s. If there’s a third, major changes could be made to the football operation.

So the latest major change to the football operation — new coach Vic Fangio — knows that he’ll need to succeed soon. And also that he’ll need to succeed later. Which makes for a not-so-easy balance when it comes to whether Fangio will be patient.

“That’s a difficult question,” Fangio recently told Woody Paige of the Colorado Springs Gazette. “If I say I’m not going to be patient, you and everybody else will think I’m going to make some knee-jerk short-term decisions that won’t have long-term benefits. What we’ve got to do, I believe, is let’s go out there and evaluate this team, find out where we need help. Make some good choices for the future, not just for today, if I’m making sense. I’m not looking to go 4-12 or 5-11, thinking that we’re rebuilding. But we must realize that two years from now, three years, that what we did in the 2019 season was why we are at that point.”

What needs to be done, then?

“We have to establish a work ethic in the players here and work very hard in the acquisitions of players,” Fangio said. “Here’s what happened to the Bears before I got there. What they were doing was putting Band-Aids on every little problem, hoping they would be a good team the next year. By the time we got there, they sucked. They were old, no young talent, no nothing. I’ve coached on two expansions teams in Carolina and with the Texans, and our roster on defense when I was hired was worse than those expansion team defenses.

“We can’t let that happen here. We can’t do everything to just get to 8-8 now and be 3-13 in 2021. Does that mean that we won’t get a veteran in free agency that will help us for a year or two? We can do that. But we can’t go and throw a bunch of [stuff] against the wall and hope it sticks.”

It sounds like Fangio will hope to build through the draft, and to supplement the roster with free agents, ideally those who are available at discount rates after the first wave of the spending process. Ultimately, however, what Fangio wants won’t matter; John Elway runs the team, and he knows that time is running out.

Thus, while Fangio may be preaching patience, Elway may be swinging for the fences. Or, at a minimum, hoping to hit a ground-rule double.

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Wow! hey Vic! Don't pull any punches here.....tell us like it was!

Now we start to see why certain fan favorite players were sent packing.

Though getting younger is the main reason the Bears had such a good season this year.

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It still surprises me that Vic is taking orders from Elway! I guess I assumed Fangio was more independent than this...unless he is going to use Elway as an excuse if things don't turn out record wise for himself and the Broncos.

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It still surprises me that Vic is taking orders from Elway! I guess I assumed Fangio was more independent than this...unless he is going to use Elway as an excuse if things don't turn out record wise for himself and the Broncos.

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The Shadow wrote:

 “Here’s what happened to the Bears before I got there. What they were doing was putting Band-Aids on every little problem, hoping they would be a good team the next year. By the time we got there, they sucked. They were old, no young talent, no nothing. I’ve coached on two expansions teams in Carolina and with the Texans, and our roster on defense when I was hired was worse than those expansion team defenses.
 

As I think back on the D that Fangio took over, Tucker had left behind a horrible mess.  54 had been gone for a while, the only fan favorite I can think of that was left was Peanut maybe?

Butkus never wore an earring

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PapaBear.OR wrote:

 

The Shadow wrote:

 “Here’s what happened to the Bears before I got there. What they were doing was putting Band-Aids on every little problem, hoping they would be a good team the next year. By the time we got there, they sucked. They were old, no young talent, no nothing. I’ve coached on two expansions teams in Carolina and with the Texans, and our roster on defense when I was hired was worse than those expansion team defenses.
 

As I think back on the D that Fangio took over, Tucker had left behind a horrible mess.  54 had been gone for a while, the only fan favorite I can think of that was left was Peanut maybe?

Pretty sure there were a few more oldies. 2014 roster - had Briggs (34), Peanut (33) , Young (29), Houston (27), Allen (32), Paea (26), Ratliff (33), Williams (32), Jennings (31), the Blur (25), Mundy (29) and Conte (25).  ST- Gould (32), Feely (38).

That was an old ass defense. I blame Emery more than Tucker for that roster. They forced Tucker to keep Lovies defense and personnel. That lockerroom was as much at fault as the coaching staff for thse dark years.

If you fire the HC, you have to have the team buy into the new one and his staff. Coddling the veterans never works.

What will the future bring? We shall see, won't we!

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The Shadow wrote:

 

PapaBear.OR wrote:

 

The Shadow wrote:

 “Here’s what happened to the Bears before I got there. What they were doing was putting Band-Aids on every little problem, hoping they would be a good team the next year. By the time we got there, they sucked. They were old, no young talent, no nothing. I’ve coached on two expansions teams in Carolina and with the Texans, and our roster on defense when I was hired was worse than those expansion team defenses.
 

As I think back on the D that Fangio took over, Tucker had left behind a horrible mess.  54 had been gone for a while, the only fan favorite I can think of that was left was Peanut maybe?

Pretty sure there were a few more oldies. 2014 roster - had Briggs (34), Peanut (33) , Young (29), Houston (27), Allen (32), Paea (26), Ratliff (33), Williams (32), Jennings (31), the Blur (25), Mundy (29) and Conte (25).  ST- Gould (32), Feely (38).

That was an old ass defense. I blame Emery more than Tucker for that roster. They forced Tucker to keep Lovies defense and personnel. That lockerroom was as much at fault as the coaching staff for thse dark years.

If you fire the HC, you have to have the team buy into the new one and his staff. Coddling the veterans never works.

Beyond Peanut none of those guys fall into my list of "fan favorites".  Briggs by then had worn out his welcome and we already knew he was not going to be able to step up and fill 54s shoes on any level, and I don't count Gould as a member of the defense (although he does make my list).  They were long in the tooth for sure.

Agreed Emery failed in epic fashion across the board, from his choices of coaches to his drafts and player moves.  Dark days.

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Obviously Peanut, but other than that...well I like Young. Not one of theres5 we’re that great or missed. I’d forgotten just how bad it was. 

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